My Testimony
As the writer of this website I would like to share with you my own experience of how I came to the Lord. I feel that it is unfortunate
that our culture often views demons, hell and other such things like some sort of fairy tale.
I was born and raised in an active Mormon family. I had kind and loving parents for which I am thankful. I grew up believing a
different gospel than that which is found in the Bible, but rather I was taught and believed Mormon doctrine. When I became a
teenager I was very rebellious. Although I believed in God, I was much more interested in partying and getting in trouble. I did a lot
of things back then that I am ashamed of today. One night some friends and I were watching a demonic movie. I remember my
friends commenting on the movie. They were saying that, if the things that were taking place in the movie were happening to
them they would leave that house. I did not see how that was an answer. I pointed out that the demons certainly were not confined
to that house.
Later that night while I was working graveyard shift I was reflecting on this. I started wondering how much Satan enjoyed my
lifestyle. I wondered if he had any part in my life that led to mental anguish and anger. I know this sounds crazy but the thought of
this made me mad! I began to want to retaliate against him. I was alone in the shop and so I began to yell at him. I said that for
every person I robbed I would tell somebody about Jesus. Not that I cared about Jesus. I just figured that would make him mad.
Right after this I was overwhelmed by the feeling that something evil was there in the shop with me. The feeling was so strong that
it scared me. I began to pray and the feeling went away. For the next 3 months or so this same awful feeling would come upon
me, even if I were not thinking about such things. Each time it scared me so much that I would begin to pray. Every time I prayed
the feeling would go away but it always seemed to come back. Things began to get worse. Sometimes while I was driving it
would feel like something would grab my steering wheel of my car. I would be pulling really hard to try and turn then suddenly it
would break free like something let go and I would almost wreck. I was becoming afraid to go anywhere or do anything.
One night when I had gone home; as I began inserting my key into the lock I saw something on the other side of the glass staring
back at me. I jumped back and while I was looking at what I believe was a demon, it disappeared. If I was high on drugs perhaps I
could have brushed it off, but I wasn't. For me this was all I could take! I got down on my knees there in my front yard and told God
that if he would just make this go away I would give my life to him. That night these things stopped happening to me. I have a
friend that had become a Christian several months before this, so I began to go to church with him.
Later I took a vacation and went to see my parents. I wanted to tell them about what had happened and the change that had taken
place in my life. I figured they would be happy considering all of the hardship I had put them through in my teenage years at home.
To my surprise my dad was not pleased at all. He said I might as well not go to church at all because I was going to the wrong
one. He insisted that I needed to return to the Mormon Church. This caused a lot of confusion for me. I had friends saying the
Mormon Church was a cult and that it that did not teach biblical truth.
I also had my family telling me the Mormon Church was the only true church. I began to question who or what I should believe.
For that matter why should I even believe the Bible? A good friend of mine directed me to the Christian bookstore.
I began to study Mormonism as well as historic Christianity. After a lot of research, study and prayer I found a lot of factual
reasons to accept the Bible as the word of God. I also discovered just as many reasons not to accept the Book of Mormon as the
word of God. I found that Mormon doctrine is contrary to the teachings of the bible. I also found that it could be proven that
Joseph Smith was a false prophet. I accepted the Lord around 1985 and have been studying on and off since then.
I am glad to say that although the majority of my relatives are still Mormons. My dad who was a High Priest in the Mormon Church
and served on 3 stake missions has left Mormonism. My Dad now has accepted Jesus and the doctrine of historic Christianity.
Several years after accepting the Lord the Mormon Missionaries started coming to my house. After some discussion one of
them asked me if I wanted my name removed from the L.D.S Church records. I stated that only if somebody understood why.
I gave them a book that I wrote which contained a portion of what is found on this web site. I stated in a letter written on the inside
of the cover of that book that I would be willing to listen to anybody that could show me in the Bible where I was wrong. I further
stated that I would gladly accept any correction from the Bible since I believed that it is the final authority. About a month later I
received a letter in the mail stating that they were removing my name as a member of the L.D.S Church. I find it interesting that
nobody within the L.D.S Church ever even attempted to show me where I was wrong in scripture in what I had written. I am not
surprised however because I know that the L.D.S Church is in fact the one that has greatly abused the word of God.
(The Bible)
I am aware of the many strong testimonies from L.D.S members who claim to have had supernatural experiences. Especially in
the area of those who are deceased being grateful for the L.D.S members being baptized in their behalf. To this I must say we
should interpret our experiences through the Bible. We should not interpret the Bible through our experiences. The bible warns
us not to even listen to an angel if they tell us something which is contrary to the bible. A spirit could seem good and do wonderful
things for you, but if it contradicts the bible then you know it is not from God. Some would question why a demon might do good
things for anyone. Well, if in doing so it leads you away from Jesus and the truth of the gospel then it accomplished its purpose.
Meant with Love
Robert E Kiser
More stuff about me
It has been suggested that I should tell my readers a little more about me. My first thought is I am not important who cares?
However for whatever its worth in case some poor soul is actually interested let me introduce myself. That is me in the picture
above with my dog Kuon. I picked Kuon's name out of my Bible program. It is a New Testament Greek word that means Dog.
Kuon is a Lab/Chow mix. He is about 2 ft tall standing on all fours and weighs 100 lbs. I am 6 ft tall and weigh 200 lbs.Yes that
means Kuon is well fed. I was born in 1957 and have now lived in Montana, Arizona, California, Tennessee, Oregon, Idaho and
brief time in New Jersey. Out of all of these states I have now spent the most years of my life in Oregon. I have traveled a little bit. I
hitchhiked across the states a couple of times when I was younger. I have been in most of the 50 states at one time or another
with the exception of Alaska and Hawaii. I really would like to go to Alaska sometime and see Denali National Park
Some have wondered what is up with the pictures of a Tepee on this website. Well I happen to like Tepees and I have lived in
one for a total of 7 years off and on. I have owned 3 different tepees. There is something majestic about them. In a Tepee you are
not disconnected from the outside like you are in a house. You can hear everything that is going on outside. There is no place I
would rather be during a good thunder storm. You can see the lighting flashes through the canvas. The rain beats down on the
stretched canvas like a drum. The wind causes it to breathe slightly lifting the canvas from the lodge poles. It is like the Tepee
comes to life. This is a rather unique experience which I have often enjoyed. By the way Tipi and Tepee are both proper spellings
of the word and you will find I use both.
I have now lived at least 15 years and counting of my life without conventional electricity and running water. This has been mostly
because I have worked minimum wage labor jobs and soon realized most of my income was spent on rent and utilities. I also
would rather live by myself in the country which is next to impossible with a meager income. My conclusion was to give up the
traditional way of living to be able to live in the woods.
My past is as some would say colorful or different. I am ashamed of much of my past yet it still is part of what has made who I am
today. I really do not know how many times I have been arrested. Fortunately I have never been to prison or convicted of a felony.
Many of the people I hung out with went to prison or died due to the chosen lifestyle. I am glad to say that all of that has been
behind me since about 1985 when I turned to the Lord.
I like many became kind of a Pharisee putting rules and judgment upon others that could not even be supported with scripture. As
life would have it I failed in my own expectations of people. I learned that I still have a sinful nature and always will and the same is
true of ALL people. I have learned more depth to the meaning of Grace and Mercy. It has become harder to judge others when
trying to view them with the Log jam in my own eye. (Mt.7:3) Still I know the best thing to do when you fall is to get back up. Many
have rejected Christianity because of Christians who failed and were labeled as hypocrites. Not all failures are huge some or
small. Yet small failures still hurt our witness. Of course the truth of Christianity does not stand or fall on any Christian today. It
stands upon Jesus Christ who really was perfect. As someone once said it would be better to be in a church with a few
hypocrites than to end up in Hell with a lot of them.
I have worked a variety of jobs in my life; here is a list of some of them. I worked as a Platter and Etcher in a Circuit Board Shop.
I worked for the Forest Service on a Survey Crew. I have also worked on Fires, planted trees, built fences, set chokers, split rails
and other various jobs in the woods. For Ranchers I have bucked hay, moved irrigation pipes, cleaned ditches, mended fences
etc. I loaded Semi Trucks and palletized for several years at Harry & David which is a well known company for its fruit and gift
packages sent all over the world. I certified police radars and taught classes on the theory and operation of R.A.D.A.R which is
kind of ironic considering my past. I have also worked as a janitor, painter, waiter, dishwasher, delivery driver and other various
jobs. I have also worked a number of years in a Dental Lab. My long term goal is to become a self supported missionary. That is
where my real passion is and there is nothing I consider more important.
My education is mostly self taught. My math and reading skills came from my mom more so than any school. I was kicked out of
a couple of schools back then. After you are kicked out of continuation school no other schools will accept you. I did go back and
take the test to get my G.E.D and I spent a short time at a community College. I also spent a semester at Calvary Chapel Bible
School in Southern California where I learned some good study habits concerning the Bible. Most of my study concerning the
Bible stems from wanting proof or evidence for everything since I was raised as a Mormon which is indeed a cult. It is true that
my only .PH.D is one that actually stands for Post Hole Digger. Someone once asked me what made me qualified to write on
subjects you find in this website. My answer is:
1 Cor 1:27 but God has chosen the foolish things of the world to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the
world to shame the things which are strong,
Acts 4:13
Now as they observed the confidence of Peter and John, and understood that they were uneducated and untrained men, they
were marveling, and began to recognize them as having been with Jesus.
2 Tim 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
I wrote everything that is on this website except two of the poems and also made the website which has been a real learning
experience in itself. Someone else made the buttons for me on the Home Page and then left it which motivated me to learn how
to finish the project. There are also Christian Brothers and Sisters which have given me a great deal of advice, encouragement,
prayer support and ideas. All though I did the work I cannot claim all of the credit because others who the Lord used played a big
part in what you will find here. There are those whom I still seek advice and prayer support and to whom I hold myself
accountable. Of course without the Lord this website would not exist at all! If anything here on this website helps you or
encourages you the credit belongs to the Lord because he is the reason it is here.
The pictures you find on this website are a combination of clip art and my own pictures as well as pictures that were E-Mailed to
me etc. Most of the pictures of animals are current or past friends of mine. Yes I love animals! In some respects they are more
honest than people. A dog that is wagging his tail is not likely to hurt you. A person with a smile on their face may stab you in the
back or rip you off. That may sound harsh, but it you know both animals and people you know that is true.
I love spending time in the woods and enjoy the simple life. I have done a lot of hiking and backpacking. I have walked most of
the section of the Pacific Crest Trail across Oregon. My favorite mountain to climb is Mt. Thielson. I have climbed Mt. Shasta a
couple of times, but I like Thielson better because it is so small on top it makes you feel like you are on top of the world.
I also have taken an interest in survival skills such as edible plants, making a solar still to get water etc. The G.P.S book that I
wrote is my learning about navigation.
I like people and can get along with almost anybody. Yet I am really kind of a loner and prefer to mostly just hang out with my dog.
In some ways that makes me a walking contradiction. I want to reach people for Christ yet I want to stay in the woods as much as
possible. Fortunately the web allows me to do that. I have also had most of my writing in the form of a free newsletter in front of
grocery stores in Southern Oregon. I hope to do something similar again. I still send some stuff to prisons on a limited basis. My
friend Linda and I have also made up care packages for the homeless and included literature with them as well.
I have hopes and dreams of where this ministry will go, but that is entirely up to the Lord.
Well I have rambled on long enough about me. Let me leave with a quote that I do not know who said it. "If you meet me and
forget me you have lost Nothing! If you meet Jesus and forget him you have lost Everything"!!!
With Love from Christ
Robert
that our culture often views demons, hell and other such things like some sort of fairy tale.
I was born and raised in an active Mormon family. I had kind and loving parents for which I am thankful. I grew up believing a
different gospel than that which is found in the Bible, but rather I was taught and believed Mormon doctrine. When I became a
teenager I was very rebellious. Although I believed in God, I was much more interested in partying and getting in trouble. I did a lot
of things back then that I am ashamed of today. One night some friends and I were watching a demonic movie. I remember my
friends commenting on the movie. They were saying that, if the things that were taking place in the movie were happening to
them they would leave that house. I did not see how that was an answer. I pointed out that the demons certainly were not confined
to that house.
Later that night while I was working graveyard shift I was reflecting on this. I started wondering how much Satan enjoyed my
lifestyle. I wondered if he had any part in my life that led to mental anguish and anger. I know this sounds crazy but the thought of
this made me mad! I began to want to retaliate against him. I was alone in the shop and so I began to yell at him. I said that for
every person I robbed I would tell somebody about Jesus. Not that I cared about Jesus. I just figured that would make him mad.
Right after this I was overwhelmed by the feeling that something evil was there in the shop with me. The feeling was so strong that
it scared me. I began to pray and the feeling went away. For the next 3 months or so this same awful feeling would come upon
me, even if I were not thinking about such things. Each time it scared me so much that I would begin to pray. Every time I prayed
the feeling would go away but it always seemed to come back. Things began to get worse. Sometimes while I was driving it
would feel like something would grab my steering wheel of my car. I would be pulling really hard to try and turn then suddenly it
would break free like something let go and I would almost wreck. I was becoming afraid to go anywhere or do anything.
One night when I had gone home; as I began inserting my key into the lock I saw something on the other side of the glass staring
back at me. I jumped back and while I was looking at what I believe was a demon, it disappeared. If I was high on drugs perhaps I
could have brushed it off, but I wasn't. For me this was all I could take! I got down on my knees there in my front yard and told God
that if he would just make this go away I would give my life to him. That night these things stopped happening to me. I have a
friend that had become a Christian several months before this, so I began to go to church with him.
Later I took a vacation and went to see my parents. I wanted to tell them about what had happened and the change that had taken
place in my life. I figured they would be happy considering all of the hardship I had put them through in my teenage years at home.
To my surprise my dad was not pleased at all. He said I might as well not go to church at all because I was going to the wrong
one. He insisted that I needed to return to the Mormon Church. This caused a lot of confusion for me. I had friends saying the
Mormon Church was a cult and that it that did not teach biblical truth.
I also had my family telling me the Mormon Church was the only true church. I began to question who or what I should believe.
For that matter why should I even believe the Bible? A good friend of mine directed me to the Christian bookstore.
I began to study Mormonism as well as historic Christianity. After a lot of research, study and prayer I found a lot of factual
reasons to accept the Bible as the word of God. I also discovered just as many reasons not to accept the Book of Mormon as the
word of God. I found that Mormon doctrine is contrary to the teachings of the bible. I also found that it could be proven that
Joseph Smith was a false prophet. I accepted the Lord around 1985 and have been studying on and off since then.
I am glad to say that although the majority of my relatives are still Mormons. My dad who was a High Priest in the Mormon Church
and served on 3 stake missions has left Mormonism. My Dad now has accepted Jesus and the doctrine of historic Christianity.
Several years after accepting the Lord the Mormon Missionaries started coming to my house. After some discussion one of
them asked me if I wanted my name removed from the L.D.S Church records. I stated that only if somebody understood why.
I gave them a book that I wrote which contained a portion of what is found on this web site. I stated in a letter written on the inside
of the cover of that book that I would be willing to listen to anybody that could show me in the Bible where I was wrong. I further
stated that I would gladly accept any correction from the Bible since I believed that it is the final authority. About a month later I
received a letter in the mail stating that they were removing my name as a member of the L.D.S Church. I find it interesting that
nobody within the L.D.S Church ever even attempted to show me where I was wrong in scripture in what I had written. I am not
surprised however because I know that the L.D.S Church is in fact the one that has greatly abused the word of God.
(The Bible)
I am aware of the many strong testimonies from L.D.S members who claim to have had supernatural experiences. Especially in
the area of those who are deceased being grateful for the L.D.S members being baptized in their behalf. To this I must say we
should interpret our experiences through the Bible. We should not interpret the Bible through our experiences. The bible warns
us not to even listen to an angel if they tell us something which is contrary to the bible. A spirit could seem good and do wonderful
things for you, but if it contradicts the bible then you know it is not from God. Some would question why a demon might do good
things for anyone. Well, if in doing so it leads you away from Jesus and the truth of the gospel then it accomplished its purpose.
Meant with Love
Robert E Kiser
More stuff about me
It has been suggested that I should tell my readers a little more about me. My first thought is I am not important who cares?
However for whatever its worth in case some poor soul is actually interested let me introduce myself. That is me in the picture
above with my dog Kuon. I picked Kuon's name out of my Bible program. It is a New Testament Greek word that means Dog.
Kuon is a Lab/Chow mix. He is about 2 ft tall standing on all fours and weighs 100 lbs. I am 6 ft tall and weigh 200 lbs.Yes that
means Kuon is well fed. I was born in 1957 and have now lived in Montana, Arizona, California, Tennessee, Oregon, Idaho and
brief time in New Jersey. Out of all of these states I have now spent the most years of my life in Oregon. I have traveled a little bit. I
hitchhiked across the states a couple of times when I was younger. I have been in most of the 50 states at one time or another
with the exception of Alaska and Hawaii. I really would like to go to Alaska sometime and see Denali National Park
Some have wondered what is up with the pictures of a Tepee on this website. Well I happen to like Tepees and I have lived in
one for a total of 7 years off and on. I have owned 3 different tepees. There is something majestic about them. In a Tepee you are
not disconnected from the outside like you are in a house. You can hear everything that is going on outside. There is no place I
would rather be during a good thunder storm. You can see the lighting flashes through the canvas. The rain beats down on the
stretched canvas like a drum. The wind causes it to breathe slightly lifting the canvas from the lodge poles. It is like the Tepee
comes to life. This is a rather unique experience which I have often enjoyed. By the way Tipi and Tepee are both proper spellings
of the word and you will find I use both.
I have now lived at least 15 years and counting of my life without conventional electricity and running water. This has been mostly
because I have worked minimum wage labor jobs and soon realized most of my income was spent on rent and utilities. I also
would rather live by myself in the country which is next to impossible with a meager income. My conclusion was to give up the
traditional way of living to be able to live in the woods.
My past is as some would say colorful or different. I am ashamed of much of my past yet it still is part of what has made who I am
today. I really do not know how many times I have been arrested. Fortunately I have never been to prison or convicted of a felony.
Many of the people I hung out with went to prison or died due to the chosen lifestyle. I am glad to say that all of that has been
behind me since about 1985 when I turned to the Lord.
I like many became kind of a Pharisee putting rules and judgment upon others that could not even be supported with scripture. As
life would have it I failed in my own expectations of people. I learned that I still have a sinful nature and always will and the same is
true of ALL people. I have learned more depth to the meaning of Grace and Mercy. It has become harder to judge others when
trying to view them with the Log jam in my own eye. (Mt.7:3) Still I know the best thing to do when you fall is to get back up. Many
have rejected Christianity because of Christians who failed and were labeled as hypocrites. Not all failures are huge some or
small. Yet small failures still hurt our witness. Of course the truth of Christianity does not stand or fall on any Christian today. It
stands upon Jesus Christ who really was perfect. As someone once said it would be better to be in a church with a few
hypocrites than to end up in Hell with a lot of them.
I have worked a variety of jobs in my life; here is a list of some of them. I worked as a Platter and Etcher in a Circuit Board Shop.
I worked for the Forest Service on a Survey Crew. I have also worked on Fires, planted trees, built fences, set chokers, split rails
and other various jobs in the woods. For Ranchers I have bucked hay, moved irrigation pipes, cleaned ditches, mended fences
etc. I loaded Semi Trucks and palletized for several years at Harry & David which is a well known company for its fruit and gift
packages sent all over the world. I certified police radars and taught classes on the theory and operation of R.A.D.A.R which is
kind of ironic considering my past. I have also worked as a janitor, painter, waiter, dishwasher, delivery driver and other various
jobs. I have also worked a number of years in a Dental Lab. My long term goal is to become a self supported missionary. That is
where my real passion is and there is nothing I consider more important.
My education is mostly self taught. My math and reading skills came from my mom more so than any school. I was kicked out of
a couple of schools back then. After you are kicked out of continuation school no other schools will accept you. I did go back and
take the test to get my G.E.D and I spent a short time at a community College. I also spent a semester at Calvary Chapel Bible
School in Southern California where I learned some good study habits concerning the Bible. Most of my study concerning the
Bible stems from wanting proof or evidence for everything since I was raised as a Mormon which is indeed a cult. It is true that
my only .PH.D is one that actually stands for Post Hole Digger. Someone once asked me what made me qualified to write on
subjects you find in this website. My answer is:
1 Cor 1:27 but God has chosen the foolish things of the world to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the
world to shame the things which are strong,
Acts 4:13
Now as they observed the confidence of Peter and John, and understood that they were uneducated and untrained men, they
were marveling, and began to recognize them as having been with Jesus.
2 Tim 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
I wrote everything that is on this website except two of the poems and also made the website which has been a real learning
experience in itself. Someone else made the buttons for me on the Home Page and then left it which motivated me to learn how
to finish the project. There are also Christian Brothers and Sisters which have given me a great deal of advice, encouragement,
prayer support and ideas. All though I did the work I cannot claim all of the credit because others who the Lord used played a big
part in what you will find here. There are those whom I still seek advice and prayer support and to whom I hold myself
accountable. Of course without the Lord this website would not exist at all! If anything here on this website helps you or
encourages you the credit belongs to the Lord because he is the reason it is here.
The pictures you find on this website are a combination of clip art and my own pictures as well as pictures that were E-Mailed to
me etc. Most of the pictures of animals are current or past friends of mine. Yes I love animals! In some respects they are more
honest than people. A dog that is wagging his tail is not likely to hurt you. A person with a smile on their face may stab you in the
back or rip you off. That may sound harsh, but it you know both animals and people you know that is true.
I love spending time in the woods and enjoy the simple life. I have done a lot of hiking and backpacking. I have walked most of
the section of the Pacific Crest Trail across Oregon. My favorite mountain to climb is Mt. Thielson. I have climbed Mt. Shasta a
couple of times, but I like Thielson better because it is so small on top it makes you feel like you are on top of the world.
I also have taken an interest in survival skills such as edible plants, making a solar still to get water etc. The G.P.S book that I
wrote is my learning about navigation.
I like people and can get along with almost anybody. Yet I am really kind of a loner and prefer to mostly just hang out with my dog.
In some ways that makes me a walking contradiction. I want to reach people for Christ yet I want to stay in the woods as much as
possible. Fortunately the web allows me to do that. I have also had most of my writing in the form of a free newsletter in front of
grocery stores in Southern Oregon. I hope to do something similar again. I still send some stuff to prisons on a limited basis. My
friend Linda and I have also made up care packages for the homeless and included literature with them as well.
I have hopes and dreams of where this ministry will go, but that is entirely up to the Lord.
Well I have rambled on long enough about me. Let me leave with a quote that I do not know who said it. "If you meet me and
forget me you have lost Nothing! If you meet Jesus and forget him you have lost Everything"!!!
With Love from Christ
Robert
Me jumping at the
Rouge River Gorge
in Oregon
Rouge River Gorge
in Oregon
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