A Different Jesus
The Jesus of Mormonism is the literal spirit brother of Lucifer and our elder brother.
The Jesus of the Bible is our creator and he created angels including Lucifer.
The Jesus of Mormonism has not always been a God.
The Jesus of the Bible has always been God.
The Jesus of Mormonism was born through a sexual relation between God the Father and Mary.
The Jesus of the Bible was born by miraculous conception through the Holy Spirit to the virgin Mary.
Keep in mind that we are warned about false Christs and wrong beliefs about who he is. Mk.13:6-23, Mt.24:5-24, 2 Pet.2:1-3,
2 Cor.11:3-4, Jn.8:24
(The following L.D.S quotes are numbered #1-#8 for point of reference to comment on.)
#1, James R. Clark,
Messages of the First Presidency, Vol.4, p.266
He said, "Jesus, our elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same character that was in the garden of Eden and who
is our Father in Heaven. Who is our "Father in Heaven"? Here is what President Young said about him; "Our Father in heaven
begat all the spirits that ever were or ever will be upon this earth and they were born spirits in the eternal world.
#2, Journal of Discourses, Vol.6, p.207 - p.208,
Joseph Young, October 11, 1857
Who is it that is at the head of this? It is the Devil, the mighty Lucifer, the great prince of the angels, and the brother of
Jesus. He left the province of his Father, and took with him a third part of his Father's kingdom, and there was no other
alternative but to banish him.
#3, Discourses of Brigham Young, p.53-54
(Compare to Is.44:24 God created all alone)
The Council in heaven said, "Let there be an earth, and let there be a firmament above and beneath it," and it was so. They
said, "Let there be heat and cold," and it was so. They said, "Let there be spring and summer, autumn and winter," and it was
so. "Who will redeem the earth, who will go forth and make the sacrifice for the earth and all things it contains?" The Eldest
Son said: "Here am I"; and then he added, "Send me." But the second one, which was "Lucifer, Son of the Morning," said,
"Lord, here am I, send me, I will redeem every son and daughter of Adam and Eve that lives on the earth.....
#4, Times and Seasons, Vol.5, p.758
(Mormon publication)
And again, we exclaim, O Mormonism! No wonder that Lucifer, son of the morning, the next heir to Jesus Christ, our
eldest brother, should fight so hard against his brethren; he lost the glory, the honor, power, and dominion of a God: and the
knowledge, spirit, authority and keys of the priesthood of the son of God!
#5, Bruce R. McConkie, (L.D.S Apostle)
A New Witness for the Articles of Faith, p.66
Our Blessed Lord is the firstborn spirit child of the Father of Spirits; all others are junior to him. His is the eternal birthright and
the everlasting right of presidency. "I was in the beginning with the Father," he says, "and am the Firstborn." (D&C 93:21.) Paul
says he is "the image of the invisible God the firstborn of every creature." (Colossians 1:15.) The body he then possessed was
a spirit body, a body made of spirit element, a body like those of all the spirit hosts of heaven. Appearing to the brother of
Jared, he said: "This body, which ye now behold, is the body of my spirit." (Ether 3:16.) In that spirit state he advanced and
progressed until, in power, dominion, and intelligence, he became "like unto God." (Abraham 3:24.) It was then that he
created all things and was foreordained to be the Savior and Redeemer.
#6, Bruce R. McConkie,
A New Witness for the Articles of Faith, p.382
This recitation of how Christ worshipped the Father, thus gaining exaltation for himself, has been revealed to us in this
day for a specific reason. "I give unto you these sayings," he says -- those sayings that set forth how he was saved by
worshipping the Father -- that you may understand and know how to worship, and know what you worship, that you may come
unto the Father in my name, and in due time receive of his fulness. For if you keep my commandments you shall receive of his
fulness, and be glorified in me as I am in the Father; therefore, I say unto you, you shall receive grace for grace." (D&C
93:12-20.)
Under EXALTATION in Mormon Doctrine on pg.257 They inherit in due course the fulness of the glory of the Father, meaning
that they have all power in heaven and on earth. (D. & C. 76:50-60; 93:1-40.) "Then shall they be gods, because they have
no end; therefore shall they be from everlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all
things are subject unto them. Then shall they be gods, because they have all power and the angels are subject unto
them." (D. & C. 132:16-26; Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 2, pp. 35-79.)
#7, Bruce R. McConkie,
A New Witness for the Articles of Faith, p.67 - p.68
All men (Christ included) were born as the sons of God in the spirit; one man (Christ only) was born as the Son of God in
this mortal world. He is the Only Begotten in the flesh. God was his Father; Mary was his mother. His Father was an immortal
man; his mother was a mortal woman. He is the Son of God in the same literal, full, and complete sense in which he is the son
of Mary. There is nothing symbolic or figurative about it. He is God's Almighty Son and as such is distinguished from the Father
in the same way any son is a separate person from his father.
#8, Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p.546
ONLY BEGOTTEN SON
See BELOVED SON, CHRIST, SON, SON OF GOD. Christ is the Only Begotten (Moses 1:6, 17, 21, 33; 2:1, 26-27; 3:18;
4:1), the Only Begotten Son (Jac. 4:5, 11; Alma 12:33-34; 13:5; D. & C. 20:21; 29:42; 49:5; 76:13, 25; John 1:18; 3:16), the
Only Begotten of the Father. (Moses 5:9.) These name-titles all signify that our Lord is the only Son of the Father in the flesh.
Each of the words is to be understood literally. Only means only; Begotten means begotten; and Son means son. Christ was
begotten by an Immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers.
In #1, #2,#3,#4 we learned that the Jesus of Mormonism is our elder brother and the literal brother of Lucifer.
The Jesus of the Bible is our creator; yes even the creator of angels.
Col 1:13-17 For He delivered us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son, in whom
we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. And He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation. For by Him
all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or
authorities-- all things have been created by Him and for Him.And He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.
All things whether visible or invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. I would say that includes just about
everything including us and angels. (See also Jn.1:3, Heb.1:2. )
Satan was created.
Ezek 28:13-15 "You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone was your covering: the ruby, the topaz, and the
diamond; the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper; the lapis lazuli, the turquoise, and the emerald; and the gold, the workmanship of
your settings and sockets, was in you. On the day that you were created they were prepared."You were the anointed cherub
who covers, and I placed you there. You were on the holy mountain of God; you walked in the midst of the stones of fire. "You
were blameless in your ways from the day you were created, until unrighteousness was found in you.
So Jesus created angels including Lucifer. How can Jesus be the literal spirit brother of his own creation? He cannot therefore
this Mormon concept of Jesus is also false. Jesus is also our creator therefore he cannot be our literal elder brother.
Furthermore scripture never implies that angels become people or that people become angels.
In #5 & #6 we learned that the Jesus of Mormonism is not eternal he was born just as we were. The Jesus of Mormonism has
not always been a God he achieved this state through exaltation. The Jesus of the Bible is eternal and he has always
been God.
Micah 5:2 "But as for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, too little to be among the clans of Judah, from you One will go forth for me to
be ruler in Israel. His goings forth are from long ago, from the days of eternity."
John 1:1&14
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the
Father, full of grace and truth.
Rev 1:7-8 Behold, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of
the earth will mourn over Him. Even so. Amen. "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is and who was and
who is to come, the Almighty."
Rev 22:13-16 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end." Blessed are those who wash
their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter by the gates into the city. Outside are the dogs and the
sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices lying. "I, Jesus,
have sent My angel to testify to you these things for the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright morning
star."
In # 5 on page 49 in this book the word firstborn was misused from Col.1:15, the word firstborn there is from word # 4416
(from Vine's Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words)
FIRST-BEGOTTEN, FIRSTBORN
prototokos ^4416^, "firstborn" (from protos, "first," and tikto, "to beget"), is used of Christ as born of the Virgin Mary, <Luke
2:7>; further, in His relationship to the Father, expressing His priority to, and preeminence over, creation, not in the sense of
being the "first" to be born. It is used occasionally of superiority of position in the OT, see <Exod. 4:22; Deut. 21:16,17>, the
prohibition being against the evil of assigning the privileged position of the "firstborn" to one born subsequently to the "first"
child.
This use of this word as described in Vine's dictionary is also shown in the context of the passage
Col 1:18 "And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he
might have the preeminence." (KJV)
Jesus is said to have preeminence and is called firstborn from the dead showing the L.D.S use of the word firstborn in this
passage is in error.
In #7 & #8 we learn that the Jesus of Mormonism was begotten through a sexual relation between Mary and God the Father.
The Jesus of the Bible was a miraculous conception where a virgin gave birth by the power of the Holy Spirit.
Luke 1:34-35 And Mary said to the angel, "How can this be, since I am a virgin?" And the angel answered and said to her, "The
Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy offspring shall
be called the Son of God.
The Jesus of Mormonism was born at Jerusalem.
Book of Mormon, Alma 7:10 And behold, he shall be born of Mary, at Jerusalem which is the land of our forefathers, she being
a virgin, a precious and chosen vessel, who shall be overshadowed and conceive by the power of the Holy Ghost, and bring
forth a son, yea, even the Son of God.
The Jesus of the Bible was born in Bethlehem.
Micah 5:2 "But as for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, too little to be among the clans of Judah, from you One will go forth for me to
be ruler in Israel. His goings forth are from long ago, from the days of eternity."
Matt 2:1 Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, behold, magi from the east arrived in
Jerusalem,

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