No other Gods

                                    No other Gods

I know that Mormons try to use the Bible to support their belief in more than one God as well as the idea that man can become
a God. So next I suppose I should review some of these so-called proof text used by L.D.S members.

Gen 3:5 "For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and
evil."

The one speaking here is Satan this is what he said to Eve. The following verse in what Jesus said about him should explain
why I do not consider his words a credible source in which to build a doctrine.

John 8:44 "You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the
beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own
nature; for he is a liar, and the father of lies.

1 Cor 8:1-6
(1) Now concerning things sacrificed to idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge makes arrogant, but love
edifies. (2) If anyone supposes that he knows anything, he has not yet known as he ought to know; (3) but if anyone loves God,
he is known by Him. (4) Therefore concerning the eating of things sacrificed to idols, we know that there is no such thing as an
idol in the world, and that there is no God but one. (5) For even if there are so-called gods whether in heaven or on earth, as
indeed there are many gods and many lords, (6) yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we
exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.

Most Mormons I have talked with start reading this text right in the middle of verse 5. The context of this whole chapter is
concerning eating of food that has been sacrificed to idols as you can see in verse 1 here. Paul in verse 4 said there is no God
but one. Then he goes on to talk about these idols and calls them so-called gods in verse 5 because the people considered
these idols gods. Then Paul said there are many gods and many lords. He is still talking about the idols when he said this.
There indeed was many idols that people considered a god or a lord. This however does not make them a god they are just an
idol; which amounts to nothing. There are many false gods today but this does not make them a god. Paul says for us there is
but one God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ because the Christian is not supposed to have any thing to do with idols.
Satan is also called god of this world 2 Cor.4:4 but he is no real God at all. He does mot have any of God's attributes he cannot
create nor does he posses the knowledge or power that God has. He has a title in this respect because of his authority or rule
over this planet. He is even worshipped as God by some, but he is a false god in fact he will end up in the lake of fire Rev.20:10

Does John 10 show that there are other Gods?
John 10:29-39
29 "My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.
30 "I and the Father are one."
31 The Jews took up stones again to stone Him.
32 Jesus answered them, "I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?"
33 The Jews answered Him, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make
Yourself out to be God."
34 Jesus answered them, "Has it not been written in your Law, 'I said, you are gods'?
35 "If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken),
36 do you say of Him, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, 'You are blaspheming,' because I said, 'I am the Son
of God'?
37 "If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me;
38 but if I do them, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in Me,
and I in the Father."
39 Therefore they were seeking again to seize Him, and He eluded their grasp.

In the text here Jesus claimed to be God in verse 30 by saying "I and the Father are one" Verse 33 shows this is how his
enemies also interpreted it. Jesus then used Psalm 82:6 for his own defense. So lets look at that passage.

Ps 82:1-8 (NAS)
1 God takes His stand in His own congregation; He judges in the midst of the rulers.
2 How long will you judge unjustly, and show partiality to the wicked? Selah.
3 Vindicate the weak and fatherless; do justice to the afflicted and destitute.
4 Rescue the weak and needy; deliver them out of the hand of the wicked.
5 They do not know nor do they understand; they walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken.
6 I said, "You are gods, and all of you are sons of the Most High.
7 "Nevertheless you will die like men, and fall like any one of the princes."
8 Arise, O God, judge the earth! For it is Thou who dost possess all the nations.

Here in the text that Jesus quoted from we see that these men who were given the title of "gods" were in fact unjust judges. This
title "gods" was their position of authority as judges. Notice verse 1 God judges in the midst of the rulers. Who are these rulers?
They are the ones who are judging unjustly verse 2. They are then exhorted to act, as they should in their position of authority
verse 3-5. These judges are reminded that they reminded that they are called "gods". Also they are sons of the Most High.
Then we see in verse 7 in spite of this position they will die like men. Does this text sound like it is speaking of actual Gods or
judges?

Not only does the context here speak of actual judges, but also the same Hebrew word translated "gods" here is also
translated judges in Ex.21:6, Ex. 22:8&9

The word "judges" below is the same Hebrew word translated "gods" in Ps.82:6.
You can verify this using the back of the Strong's Concordance.

Exodus 22:8 "If the thief is not caught, then the owner of the house shall appear before the judges, to determine whether he
laid his hands on his neighbor's property.

Following is two different definitions of this Hebrew word.
Strong's definitions of Hebrew words
430 'elohiym (el-o-heem');
plural of 433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme
God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative:
KJV-- angels, X exceeding, God (gods)- dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.

Brown-Driver-Briggs' defenition of Hebrew words.
430 'elohiym-
1) (plural) (a) rulers, judges (b) divine ones (c) angels (d) gods
2) (plural intensive -singular meaning) (a) God, a god, a goddess ( b) god-like one
(c) works or special possessions of God (d) the one true God (e) God

So here in the 82nd Psalm not only is the context speaking of unjust judges, but the Hebrew word is sometimes translated
judges. These are merely men not literal Gods.

Now back to our original text in John 10. Jesus claimed to be God by saying, "I and the Father are one" in verse 30. Even his
enemies understood what he meant Verse 33. They said they were going to stone Jesus because he being a man made
himself out to be God. Jesus then used the 82nd Psalm in his own defense. Jesus using this passage reminds them that even
mere men who were judges have been called gods in scripture.

Certainly then he who really was God had a right to the title. Jesus said they did not believe that he and the Father were one
(i.e. God) by his own words. So he challenged them to consider the works that he did that they may know that "the Father is in
me and I in the Father". The Jews understood this again as a claim to be God that is why they tried to seize him, verse 39.
I know the Book of Mormon is not the word of God still I find it interesting that according to it there are no other Gods.

Alma 11:21-29
21 And this Zeezrom began to question Amulek, saying: Will ye answer me a few questions which I shall ask you? Now
Zeezrom was a man who was expert in the devices of the devil, that he might destroy that which was good; therefore, he said
unto Amulek: Will ye answer the questions which I shall put unto you?
22 And Amulek said unto him: Yea, if it be according to the Spirit of the Lord, which is in me; for I shall say nothing which is
contrary to the Spirit of the Lord. And Zeezrom said unto him: Behold, here are six onties of silver, and all these will I give thee if
thou wilt deny the existence of a Supreme Being.
23 Now Amulek said: O thou child of hell, why tempt ye me? Knowest thou that the righteous yieldeth to no such temptations?
24 Believest thou that there is no God? I say unto you, Nay, thou knowest that there is a God, but thou lovest that lucre more
than him.
25 And now thou hast lied before God unto me. Thou saidst unto me--Behold these six onties, which are of great worth, I will
give unto thee--when thou hadst it in thy heart to retain them from me; and it was only thy desire that I should deny the true and
living God, that thou mightest have cause to destroy me. And now behold, for this great evil thou shalt have thy reward.
26 And Zeezrom said unto him: Thou sayest there is a true and living God?
27 And Amulek said: Yea, there is a true and living God.
28 Now Zeezrom said: Is there more than one God?
29 And he answered, No.

"How is it that God is not aware of any other Gods, if in fact they exists?"

Isa 44:8 'Do not tremble and do not be afraid; have I not long since announced it to you and declared it? And you are My
witnesses. Is there any God besides me, or is there any other Rock? I know of none.'"

"How can one become a God as the L.D.S Church teaches, if there was no God formed before Him and there will never be a
God formed after Him?

Isa 43:10 "You are My witnesses," declares the LORD, "And My servant whom I have chosen, in order that you may know and
believe me, and understand that I am He. Before me there was no God formed, and there will be none after me.

Deut 4:35 "To you it was shown that you might know that the LORD, He is God; there is no other besides Him.

Deut 4:39 "Know therefore today, and take it to your heart, that the LORD, He is God in heaven above and on the earth below;
there is no other.

Deut 32:39 `See now that I, I am He, and there is no god besides me; it is I who put to death and give life. I have wounded, and
it is I who heal; and there is no one who can deliver from My hand.

1 Sam 2:2 "There is no one holy like the LORD, indeed, there is no one besides Thee, nor is there any rock like our God.

2 Sam 22:32 "For who is God, besides the LORD? And who is a rock, besides our God?

Isa 44:6 "Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: `I am the first and I am the last, and
there is no God besides me.

Isa 45:5-6 "I am the LORD, and there is no other; besides me there is no God. I will gird you, though you have not known me;
That men may know from the rising to the setting of the sun that there is no one besides me. I am the LORD, and there is no
other,

Isa 45:14 Thus says the LORD, "The products of Egypt and the merchandise of Cush And the Sabeans, men of stature, will
come over to you and will be yours; they will walk behind you, they will come over in chains and will bow down to you; they will
make supplication to you: 'Surely, God is with you, and there is none else, no other God.'"

Isa 45:21 "Declare and set forth your case; indeed, let them consult together. Who has announced this from of old? Who has
long since declared it? Is it not I, the LORD? And there is no other God besides me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is
none except me.

Isa 46:9 "Remember the former things long past, for I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is no one like me,

Ps 18:31 For who is God, but the LORD? And who is a rock, except our God,

Neh 9:6 "Thou alone art the LORD. Thou hast made the heavens, the heaven of heavens with all their host, the earth and all that
is on it, the seas and all that is in them. Thou dost give life to all of them and the heavenly host bows down before Thee.

James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. (KJV)

Ps 96:5 For all the gods of the peoples are idols, but the LORD made the heavens.

The Mormon idea "As man is God once was and as God is man may become" falls apart if there are no other Gods!

The Mormon idea in the 1st article of faith as in believing that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are 3 separate Gods falls
apart if there is only 1 God!

The Mormon leaders become false witnesses saying that there are many other Gods but only one for us if in fact there is no
other Gods!

Any verse a Mormon can come up with in the Bible to show there is more than one God will have to be taken out of context to
make it appear to be so. Still this would not answer the question "How is it that God is not even aware of them?"